Posts by Jonathan Drake

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One Scripture To Trash the Org: 1st John 4:18

by freemindfade in

1st john 4:18 .

18 there is no fear in love,+ but perfect love casts* fear out, because fear restrains us.

indeed, the one who is fearful has not been made perfect in love.+.

Jonathan Drake

I've got one for you.

hebrews 7:23, 24

Furthermore, many had to become priests in succession because death prevented them from continuing as such, but because he continues alive forever, his priesthood has no successors.

Here the mosaic law is being compared to Jesus covenant. The book is claiming that the old law only had priests because the original mediator (Moses) died, and then a line of priests because each priest after would also die. It then says that Jesus is alive forever and will have no such priests.

So then how can the Governing Body possibly be Jesus representative?

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Ex-Christians being angry

by Jonathan Drake in

jw
friends

i know i'm angry.

i was curious if others are too.

i feel completely justified in my anger as well.

Jonathan Drake

Meditation has helped. Not the weird, transcendantal, metaphysical kind of meditation. Just finding a quiet place, being alone with my thoughts and focusing on nothing but enjoying each breath even for as little as 15 minutes a day has helped ease the anger and resentment.

I will try this, if it'll help me not be so pissed then thats good. I don't like having such a short fuse when it used to be much much longer.

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Indiana "Religious Freedom" (right to discriminate)

by Simon in

sickening to see the photo of the religious zealots all stood around the governor signing into law the right for people to discriminate against others (gay, lesbian, trans-gender) based purely on religious dogma.. if religious people want those freedoms then the can't have it both ways - they cannot complain if *they* are discriminated against.. "sorry, we don't like zionists, get out".

"oh, it's some special mass and you can't work your shift?

you're fired!"..

Jonathan Drake

never a jw2 minutes ago
JD,
You made quite a great deal of assumptions about me, just because I believe in the greatest amount freedom possible for organized society. You confirmed it, the Christian in you still alive and well.

Wait, what did I do? Have you even posted in this thread I've only caught the last few posts...

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Likes and dislikes

by Jonathan Drake in

i'm not sure how everyone else feels, but i'd kind of like to be able to see how many likes or dislikes my own post gets.

i think it's be good, and a nice way to gauge your own reception to a discussion and maybe know when to back off or leave on a high note, lol.

Jonathan Drake

Ohhh Lol. I've just always assumed you couldn't see your own! Tbh I never checked!

I feel dumb!

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Indiana "Religious Freedom" (right to discriminate)

by Simon in

sickening to see the photo of the religious zealots all stood around the governor signing into law the right for people to discriminate against others (gay, lesbian, trans-gender) based purely on religious dogma.. if religious people want those freedoms then the can't have it both ways - they cannot complain if *they* are discriminated against.. "sorry, we don't like zionists, get out".

"oh, it's some special mass and you can't work your shift?

you're fired!"..

Jonathan Drake

But as nice as all of that sounds, we have one planet, and we are better as a species if we are tolerant of others

This sums up my feelings on this subject. I haven't read every page of this yet so if you're actually for the law and not against it it's not my intention to misrepresent your words. I just like this sentence a lot.

The moment we let intolerance and discrimination become legal, and I mean that on both sides be it religious against gay rights or homosexuals against religious, we become our own worst enemy. In that decision we've essentially opened the door to segregation, and announced open season on whichever group any particular majority chooses to hate. It could be any race of your choosing hating any race of theirs, any religion, any one group verses any group for any strong belief that the other is immoral or wrong.

and any one of us on this planet could be on that losing side just for being ourselves. This law is dangerous.

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Likes and dislikes

by Jonathan Drake in

i'm not sure how everyone else feels, but i'd kind of like to be able to see how many likes or dislikes my own post gets.

i think it's be good, and a nice way to gauge your own reception to a discussion and maybe know when to back off or leave on a high note, lol.

Jonathan Drake

I'm not sure how everyone else feels, but I'd kind of like to be able to see how many likes or dislikes my own post gets. I think it's be good, and a nice way to gauge your own reception to a discussion and maybe know when to back off or leave on a high note, lol.

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Ex-Christians being angry

by Jonathan Drake in

jw
friends

i know i'm angry.

i was curious if others are too.

i feel completely justified in my anger as well.

Jonathan Drake

Or when I read of some abuse case or some JW needlessly dying because of blood policy.

And this is happening more and more often. Each time I want to just smack my parents and all the people I've callled friends and say, "READ THIS!? SEE THIS!? THIS is what this religion truly is.

sometimes a very tactfully do that, and then I get even more angry because, "I know it's wrong and Jehovah will take care of it." Just passing the buck and continuing to donate, idiots.

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Indiana "Religious Freedom" (right to discriminate)

by Simon in

sickening to see the photo of the religious zealots all stood around the governor signing into law the right for people to discriminate against others (gay, lesbian, trans-gender) based purely on religious dogma.. if religious people want those freedoms then the can't have it both ways - they cannot complain if *they* are discriminated against.. "sorry, we don't like zionists, get out".

"oh, it's some special mass and you can't work your shift?

you're fired!"..

Jonathan Drake

Viv, how do you not recognize that you have a problem. I said this some time back- this is what you do. I rarely see you post and not get involved in some argument. and I honestly think this is why:

there is a difference between being intelligent and being smart. Smart means you know things. Intelligence means you have the ability to learn and apply. Personally I think you have an abundance of the former and a lack of the latter. This results in you getting in arguments all the time, some of which you crush people with your smarts but a majority of which you get shown up and just don't want to concede that you aren't that intelligent. Being extremely smart is just as usefule as being intelligent, and if you'd stop trying to be intelligent and use your smarts to actually learn then you may actually start sounding and behaving intelligent.

http://www.differencebetween.net/miscellaneous/difference-between-smart-and-intelligent/

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Ex-Christians being angry

by Jonathan Drake in

jw
friends

i know i'm angry.

i was curious if others are too.

i feel completely justified in my anger as well.

Jonathan Drake

I know I'm angry. I was curious if others are too.

i feel completely justified in my anger as well. I was angry enough at the Jehovah's witmess religion for causing me to throw away the potential I had to be anything. Now I'm angry about Christianity being a big huge lie. The relatives I've lost and can never see and won't have a relationship with makes me angry. The way billions still believe it makes me angry, and the fact that all of those people are being victimized by a lie, robbed of their intelligence and stripped of their reasoning ability makes me angry; but the fact that I was one of them just pisses me off.

I can completely understand the reaction of some ex Christians to posts about faith and God and the future now. I'm not even sure I can post on such topics without coming across as aggressive to that person when I'm honestly just trying to help in what small ways I currently can.

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Indiana "Religious Freedom" (right to discriminate)

by Simon in

sickening to see the photo of the religious zealots all stood around the governor signing into law the right for people to discriminate against others (gay, lesbian, trans-gender) based purely on religious dogma.. if religious people want those freedoms then the can't have it both ways - they cannot complain if *they* are discriminated against.. "sorry, we don't like zionists, get out".

"oh, it's some special mass and you can't work your shift?

you're fired!"..

Jonathan Drake

I recently read this and I thought it helpful in explaining the difference between a theory in general and a theory in science. It also speaks to the danger of teaching creationist views in school or even merely not teaching the reality of science and evolution. In my own view, with the very real danger of climate change, we cannot afford the cost of retarding society the way we are by teaching lies or ignoring reality.

In science, something can be both theory and fact. We know the existence of pathogens is a fact; germ theory provides testable explanations concerning the nature of disease. We know the existence of cells is a fact and that cell theory provides testable explanations of how cells function. Similarly, we know evolution is a fact and that evolutionary theories explain biological patterns and mechanisms. The late Stephen Jay Gould said it best: “Evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world’s data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts.”
Theory is the most powerful and important tool science has, but nonscientists have perverted and diluted the word to mean a hunch, notion, or idea. Thus, all too many people interpret the phrase evolutionary theory to mean evolutionary hunch. Not surprisingly, I spend the first week of class differentiating theory from fact, as well as defining other critical terms.

Taken from:

http://tinyurl.com/ojfdqz3